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For some reason, I always need to hear a song a whole bunch of times before I love it. I don't know why, and there are rare exceptions - I loved Belle & Sebastian's Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying the first time I heard it – but no FOB lyric has ever applied to me as well as "the songs you grow to like never stick at first." It took me, like, MONTHS to love MCR, and now I adore them unreasonably. (Uh, MCR's music, that is. I wrote a huge schmoopy GWay Love Post before I'd even seen LotMS, so I think you can judge for yourself just how fast I fell for those children themselves.)

Anyway, here's what I'm saying: Sophomore Slump or Comeback of the Year. Hi, I love this song. I LOVE it. I always prefer songs where Pete talks about The Band to songs where Pete talks about That Bitch, but man, I really really love this song. I might have to add it to my list of Reasons I Love It When Pete Writes Meta, along with Thriller, Saturday (although, didn't Patrick write that? Whatevs), and that one buzznet entry. Oh, and every Q&A ever, of course. PETE WENTZ. SOMETIMES YOU ARE MY FAVORITE. ♥ ♥ ♥

Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty much at the point of just wanting to type the lyrics of that song over and over instead of making a coherent blog post. Man, I'm so overinvested in Pete Wentz, it's kind of a problem. Except for how I love it. I think a lot of people were blown into bandom by big winds in their personal lives, high seas and tempests – God knows I was. And I'm not sure how I found comfort and meaning in some dirty shitty boys from Chicago, but I really did. I don't mean to turn my LJ into a constant stream of OMG DEFENSIVE, at all, and I'll try to keep quiet after this, but – this fandom means a lot to me, and it genuinely hurts when people piss on it, or say it's okay to be into it as long as we know the music's shitty, or that the boys are insincere, or whatever. I don't know. The music – uh, whatever, I don't feel like arguing music taste. I love the music, that's the relevant part, I guess. Most of us love the music. And we sure as hell love the people who make it, and as much as we mock them (AND WE DO, bandom takes itself FAR less seriously than most of the fandoms I've been in!) we genuinely respect them. We love them without irony. And getting harshed on by people who ARE ALSO FANNISH, by people who, hello, write gay porn about Stargate Atlantis (or Harry Potter, or the Sentinel, or any of our other thoroughly ridiculous obsessions) feels a little. I don't know. It gets a tiny bit less funny, after, like, the fiftieth time.

This all goes back to what I've always said about overinvestment being the whole point of what we do, fannishly, and about how I think it's so much more important what you get out of something artistically than whether it's good according to some empirical standard. I have just as little interest in being attacked for being a Fall Out Boy fan as I do in being attacked for being an SGA fan, or a slash fan, or a romance novel fan. All my meta is one big meta! Pete Wentz, let's get together sometime and chat, I think it'd be a good time.

Whatever, I probably shouldn't post this, but my roommates are out pursuing athletic interests while I'm lazing around in an armchair, and mooching someone else's internet. So!

P.S. I was so overwhelmed by the response to my post about the stagegay that I can only write about it in small text, because I don't want to get weepy AGAIN, like I did about forty times during that wank when I saw how lovely and wonderful and intelligent my fandom was being. ILU, my angels. Thank you so much for every single comment. I'm still planning to reply to all of them when I get a more consistent wireless signal. Oh my fandom, I have so many <3s for you. <333333333333333333333333
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posted by [identity profile] quettaser.livejournal.com at 01:25am on 20/09/2007
Christ, it is like every time you post I just want say YES. And IAWTC. Or entry, as the case may be.

I CONCUR ON ALL POINTS.
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 01:26am on 20/09/2007
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
 
posted by [identity profile] quettaser.livejournal.com at 01:31am on 20/09/2007
Seriously, my journal could probably just be links to your entries and picspams.

♥♥♥
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 01:40am on 20/09/2007
Uh, but then I would cry because I would be deprived of your awesome?
 
posted by [identity profile] quettaser.livejournal.com at 02:26am on 20/09/2007
My awesome would live on in memory and anonymity! Or something.

Pls, like I could shut up for any length of time.
 
posted by [identity profile] clare-san.livejournal.com at 01:27am on 20/09/2007
Sophomore Slump is one of my most favorite ever (as opposed to just 'most favorite') songs too! I don't actually have much of anything coherent to say about it either, except that I LOVE IT SO HARD. All the little phrases that just ring so well! And then the contrast between Patrick and Beckett's voices? My love for William originated entirely with that song! And to be a sappy sad sop, I was first listening to that album when I was trying to apply to grad school and it was all terrible and stressful and what on earth am I thinking, am I doomed to drudgery and boring adulthood for the rest of my life, so or just going down? was exactly what was going on. And really, I love "the songs and the worlds own the beating of our hearts" because it just describes my relationship with this stupid band exactly. One day, I'm just floating aimlessly around the internet, and WHAM, two weeks later I'm buying scalped tickets from some sketch dude on craigslist for nearly twice their face value so I can see their show in another two weeks. ILU BOYS! And Travie made his place in my heart by referencing that song too. ♥ ♥

... uh, sorry to dump that all over you! I. Just. That song!
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 01:32am on 20/09/2007
See, that's the THING, god! That's the thing. I think it's very, very, very hard to be reasonable about defending these boys when it feels like they, um, saved your life. Or, well, if not SAVED YOUR LIFE, then at least made it a lot more bearable. You get WRAPPED UP in these songs, and they matter, and they make things easier to handle. You know? Hum Hallelujah does that for me, and Saturday – oh man, ESPECIALLY Saturday – and some others, too. I don't know. I just – I think that's kind of special, I guess? I'm glad we have that to connect with. It's something that makes this fandom special. ♥

THAT SONG, GOD. *puts it on repeat*
 
posted by [identity profile] mercymydarling.livejournal.com at 01:28am on 20/09/2007
For some reason, I always need to hear a song a whole bunch of times before I love it. I don't know why

I am the exact same way. People look at me like I'm crazy when I declare that I love a song that two days ago I was all "meh" about.
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 01:33am on 20/09/2007
Ahahaha, if I had a quarter for every time that's happened to me...
 
posted by [identity profile] sockich.livejournal.com at 01:32am on 20/09/2007
I'll try to keep quiet after this

Please don't.

it's okay to be into it as long as we know the music's shitty

This one really gets to me because...I've never been the type to connect with music. I mean, I listened to music and there were songs I loved but it was all just...on the surface? Kind of? But here, this music, it means something to me, and that's new and special and I don't care if people think it's shitty, but. It's not even that I don't want to be mocked? Because whatever, I have no problem with that, but when someone insults the music and the boys...that fucking hurts. And yeah, that makes me sound insane, but I don't really care.

My crazy, let me show you it?

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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 01:37am on 20/09/2007
♥ ♥ ♥

Man, I could not agree more. SERIOUSLY. I was never that into music, growing up, and even now I'm not THAT into music, and I never in my life had the experience of going to a show and feeling lifted up and transported and alive, until one day in Chicago in June at the end of a truly shitty spring when I looked up at a lot of silver confetti and my band singing a song about not knowing if you're going to make it or not.

Yeah, I see your crazy, babe, and here's mine. \o/
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posted by [identity profile] universeunfold.livejournal.com at 01:37am on 20/09/2007
Just...yes to everything you said. Sophomore Slump was one of my early favorites on FUCT, and has stood the test of time. Also? That buzznet entry made me tear up. Pete being appreciative of the good things in his life (especially his Patrick), just melts my heart.
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 01:42am on 20/09/2007
I, like, can't look directly at that picture for too long. IT HURTS ME TO BE SO GLEEFUL. God, they are precious as fuck, and they love each other so damn much. BOYYYYS!
 
posted by [identity profile] untiemybinds.livejournal.com at 01:50am on 20/09/2007
I hear you on the Pete Wentz love. :( It takes all my willpower not to scream at all the people who say, "I wish his suicide attempt hadn't failed," or "go die," or all these other horrible things. People are so stupid. Personally, since I still wish someone could've saved my uncle from killing himself fourteen years ago, I wouldn't call not dying a failure, but whatever.

And I was going to comment on your post about how slash fandom (HP I think?) in general made my rethink how I thought about homosexuality when I was 12 or so, but so many people had already done so I thought it would be pointless. Basically I went from "ew gross" to "there's absolutely nothing wrong with loving someone, no matter who they are, and SHUT UP you idiots who keep saying so" so I'd call it a win? Whatever.

Someone made that macro into an icon! Awesome! Brian is love.

That buzznet entry of Pete's gets me everytime. That picture! ♥ I love them so much! All of them, really. And the music makes me happy, so who the hell cares if other people don't like it.
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 01:57am on 20/09/2007
adfjhaskdsahfjksdh why do people think stuff like that is okay to say? I mean, I get why, because I too can be a sarcastic little shit, but. WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT IS OKAY. I JUST.

DDDDD: PETE.

Oh man, I appreciated every comment I got, and I'm definitely going to get to answering them, but I've been moving into a new apartment, and I have shitty internet! *guilt* I think that's awesome, dude. I love that fandom – that things other people might think of as casual or trivial - can really change your life, can matter. I think that is AWESOME. I can't imagine why anyone would want to say no to that, for any reason. Ever.

The same person (http://vange.livejournal.com/65053.html) who made the original macro! Brian Schechter, how are you so awesome? <3

And the music makes me happy, so who the hell cares if other people don't like it.

Hey, exactly. \o/
 
posted by [identity profile] little-whittles.livejournal.com at 02:47am on 20/09/2007
I'm so glad you're on my friends-list. Really. Really.
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 02:57am on 20/09/2007
Aww, thank you so much! *digs toe in the sand*
 
posted by [identity profile] raveninthewind.livejournal.com at 02:56am on 20/09/2007
<3333333333333 you back

I love the music, and it also is personally meaningful. If that makes me emo, well...yeah. So? And bandslash saved me from spiraling deeper into a depression a few months ago, so I will always be grateful for the distraction just when I needed it.
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 05:54am on 20/09/2007
Uh, hi there, me! I just – I don't understand how anyone could listen to someone saying, "I really care deeply about ____ and it makes me happy and it got me through rough times in my life and I love it without irony" and say, "Yeah, but..." NO. JUST NO. THERE IS NO YEAH BUT. I don't care if you hate my fandom, don't get into it. Just don't tell me I'm an idiot for feeling differently.

<33333333333333333333333
 
posted by [identity profile] violin-road.livejournal.com at 03:58am on 20/09/2007
THAT IS MY FAVORITE FOB SONG AS WELL. Let's hang out and listen to it on repeat :D
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 05:45am on 20/09/2007
UM, I VOTE YES. :D
 
posted by [identity profile] violin-road.livejournal.com at 05:50am on 20/09/2007
Oh I see, you get two votes ;D
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 05:52am on 20/09/2007
ahahaha wow, I fail at livejournal. /o\ I blame my shitty internet!
 
posted by [identity profile] violin-road.livejournal.com at 05:55am on 20/09/2007
But you win at life, clearly ♥
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 05:56am on 20/09/2007
:DDD \o/
 
posted by [identity profile] magdalyna.livejournal.com at 06:54am on 20/09/2007
<3333333333
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 03:07am on 21/09/2007
 
posted by [identity profile] magdalyna.livejournal.com at 04:00am on 21/09/2007
Which reminds me, did you ever find a pic of Andy drumming that would fit with that ninja series of icons?
 
posted by [identity profile] moondarri.livejournal.com at 09:41am on 20/09/2007
Some people just don't like Fall Out Boy, & that's fine (of course, I pity them, but.) Music taste varies. Fine. Whatever.
But what I can't stand are people who like Fall Out Boy, who listen to the music, go to the gigs, but hate on Pete Wentz.
I remember reading an article in the NME (only bought it because it had, like, twelve pages on MCR, otherwise that RAG does not get my money because they've hated Placebo for ten years & said that their latest album was little more than 'electro-goth noodling', while they bum bands like The View in every fucking issue, then jump on the MCR bandwagon but FAIL to realise that the 'Revenge' part of MCR's set refers to the SECOND album, not the FIRST, & review a Fall Out Boy set by saying that Pete is a fame-whore & Patrick has 'all the charm of a wet lettuce.' GAH.) where gig-goers were describing their experience of a FOB gig, & EVERY reaction they'd chosen to print said something along the lines of, "yeah, they were awesome, but I can't stand Pete Wentz."
People are always saying -- like, if you admit you like FOB, you obviously have shitty music taste, but you can get away with it if you say that Pete Wentz is an ass. Like hating on him will improve your credibility.
Anyway, that was a long & convoluted way of saying that I hate people hating on Pete. I mean, jesus, he's only like, writing the lyrics. Obviously we could do without him. *rollseyes*
I like the way Pete writes. He makes sense to me. I've been slowly packing my life up over the past month or so -- leaving for uni this Saturday, & I'm fucking terrified. Everything feels like an upheaval that's too difficult to cope with, but. I don't know. Those dudes have been on my mind the whole time, & I just feel better because of them. & LJ & bandom is like this awesome constant in the midst of change, so. In conclusion, um. I guess IAWTC. xDD
 
posted by [identity profile] withafireinside.livejournal.com at 11:54pm on 20/09/2007
I can't stand are people who like Fall Out Boy, who listen to the music, go to the gigs, but hate on Pete Wentz.

I feel the same way about MCR fans who trash Gerard constantly. Sure, the kid's nuts, but despite any questionable behavior, I still love him like whoa and I won't tolerate people talking shit about him (Gerard's five years older than me but I still call him a 'kid' because I feel so overprotective of him.)
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 03:13am on 21/09/2007
Okay, okay, HERE IS THE THING: not only could FOB not possibly exist without Pete, but Pete? Is Patrick's best friend. He is the person who PATRICK STUMP IS BEST FRIENDS WITH. I just do not comprehend how anyone could look at someone Patrick "I shine from within with the glow of my own awesome" Stump approves of and completely write them off! It just makes no sense. *g*

(And, y'know, he also writes some awesome lyrics and cares about his friends and is very smart and business-savvy and smiles like an angel and loves what he does. But whatevs. PATRICK LIKES HIM, DUDE.)

(Oh, hey, semi-relatedly, you know what else I hate that hipsters do all the damn time? Saying you hate FOB, but then recommending the String Quartet Tribute to Fall Out Boy "which is actually kind of good!" It's like - adlsfjapoajdfs I can't even explain how much I hate it. It's like flat-out admitting that you like the music and are too posery to say so.)
 
posted by [identity profile] espoirliberte.livejournal.com at 01:00pm on 20/09/2007
I have this crazy insane love for 'Thriller' and 'Saturday', there is something about Pete's lyrics which when put with Patrick's voice, Andy's drumming and Joe's guitar, all combine to produce something which is really bloody amazing. I am so close to writing a 'Why I love IOH' manifesto.
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 05:00am on 21/09/2007
Dude, DO it! I am all for more love posts in this fandom! I think we could use it right now, honestly.
 
posted by [identity profile] espoirliberte.livejournal.com at 09:33am on 21/09/2007
heh, I'm gonna try, but I can't promise it'll be coherent, it might just involve lots of flailing.
 
posted by [identity profile] janet-carter.livejournal.com at 01:04pm on 20/09/2007
I have one minute before I need to go to work and then go stalk Gerard, but yes, yes, and yes, what you said.

(I got into bandom in, like, two hours, but there's also a way in which I got into bandom because my commute had changed and I needed something to listen to and obsess over in the car, because I missed reading on the train and I'm not good at paying attention to audiobooks.)
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 03:15am on 21/09/2007
adfsjas;fjsaoifj YOU MET GERARD I AM JEALOUS OMG.

I totally got in through the fic, but the music has been growing and growing on me, you know? I just need time to come around to such things.
 
posted by [identity profile] joandarck.livejournal.com at 05:50pm on 20/09/2007
Hey, kal, I just want to make sure you know that -- well, I'm totally guilty of the "at least it's not bandslash" joke, but it's not because I think there's something wrong or uncool about it, but just because of why I used to rag on SGA, because it's this thing that ate my f-list. But I read most of your bandslash posts in surprising detail and even follow the links a lot of the time, because I love hearing about what you think and love about them and what it does for you. You express yourself beautifully and it's a pleasure to watch you fan.
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 03:18am on 21/09/2007
omg joan you know how I do with people saying nice things about me!

Seriously, that's such a great compliment. And I definitely wasn't thinking of you when I said that, at all! I just, argh, it feels like there's been a lot of hate lately, and I made fandom_wank for the first time, and I guess I'm a little over-wrought. But thanks, that's a really sweet thing to say. And it's exactly why I want you to post about the Sentinel, dude! I always want to hear what you have to say, even when I don't know much about it. ♥ ♥
 
posted by [identity profile] joandarck.livejournal.com at 03:58am on 21/09/2007
Aw, I saw you on fandom_wank! I clapped! But I didn't think you were getting held up for ridicule, actually. It looked to me like phaballa was getting the mocking for the original comment, and after that the wank reporter was mainly just giving key references for where to find the main discussion going on, [livejournal.com profile] metafandom-style. That was a *good post*, it was both reasonable and passionate. No wank there.

(I'm embarrassing you again! Don't reply! *pats*)
 
posted by [identity profile] withafireinside.livejournal.com at 11:58pm on 20/09/2007
I remember reading a fic a while back (I think it was a SV fic) that had the title "i'd burn this city down to show you the light". I fell in love with that line, even though I didn't know where it came from. Then one day I was listening to Cork Tree in the car and heard that line and my eyes lit up like "yays!" Now it's one of my favorite FOB songs too. Sometimes it's the littlest things that make something special.
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 03:20am on 21/09/2007
It's SUCH an awesome line. Although, honestly, it's a little poisoned in my mind now by this badfic I heard about where Pete LITERALLY BURNS DOWN CHICAGO, which, WHAT. But yes, the lyrics for that song ruuule. I think I'm going to go listen to it on repeat some more right now, actually! \o/
 
posted by [identity profile] withafireinside.livejournal.com at 04:37am on 21/09/2007
It's like some of the MCR fics I've seen where the fans take certain songs a little too literally. Like, stop making Gerard a serial killer! Gawd. *lol*
 
posted by [identity profile] impertinence.livejournal.com at 07:01am on 21/09/2007
My favorite is "oh, no, I don't have a problem with the fandom! it's just that the music sucks". hahahahahaha, come closer so I can PUNCH YOUR FACE.

um.
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 06:05am on 23/09/2007
I KNOW. IT'S LIKE THEY THINK THAT MAKES IT LESS OFFENSIVE. GTFO SRSLY.
 
posted by [identity profile] shrift.livejournal.com at 08:35pm on 21/09/2007
Usually when people make the "I don't like it, therefore it must suck" sweeping generalizations, they politely get their asses handed to them by the rest of fandom. Only for some reason bandom is the red-headed emo teenage stepchild who "cuts" with a pink plastic Lady BIC.

I'm tired of being told that I'm stupid and I smell funny and that I should OMGSHUTUP and go away just because I love Pete Wentz's stupid face.

I could post about things I don't like in fandom every day for a month and still have some left over. But I don't, because I'm not a complete douchenozzle.

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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 06:08am on 23/09/2007
I... really do not understand why this should be! Although your characterization of the reaction is pretty much solidified awesome. A pink plastic Lady BIC, oh god, it's so true.

I AM TIRED OF THAT AS WELL, SHRIFT. I DO NOT LIKE IT. ME AND YOU AND PETE WENTZ'S STUPID FACE SHOULD HANG OUT SOME TIME AND SMELL FUNNY TOGETHER. (ahaha. one of the above things actually might smell funny. oh, pete, honey, take a shower. dry shampoo is just not the same.)

I could post about things I don't like in fandom every day for a month and still have some left over. But I don't, because I'm not a complete douchenozzle.

I could post about things I don't like in fandom every day for a month and still have some left over. But I don't, because I'm not a complete douchenozzle.

I could post about things I don't like in fandom every day for a month and still have some left over. But I don't, because I'm not a complete douchenozzle.

Yeah, that's pretty much all I have to say about that.
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posted by [identity profile] jukeboxromeo.livejournal.com at 10:07am on 22/09/2007
This post is many, many different kinds of awesome. ♥
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posted by [identity profile] kalpurna.livejournal.com at 06:13am on 23/09/2007
Aww, thanks. :DDD

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