For some reason, I always need to hear a song a whole bunch of times before I love it. I don't know why, and there are rare exceptions - I loved Belle & Sebastian's Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying the first time I heard it – but no FOB lyric has ever applied to me as well as "the songs you grow to like never stick at first." It took me, like, MONTHS to love MCR, and now I adore them unreasonably. (Uh, MCR's music, that is. I wrote a huge schmoopy GWay Love Post before I'd even seen LotMS, so I think you can judge for yourself just how fast I fell for those children themselves.)
Anyway, here's what I'm saying: Sophomore Slump or Comeback of the Year. Hi, I love this song. I LOVE it. I always prefer songs where Pete talks about The Band to songs where Pete talks about That Bitch, but man, I really really love this song. I might have to add it to my list of Reasons I Love It When Pete Writes Meta, along with Thriller, Saturday (although, didn't Patrick write that? Whatevs), and that one buzznet entry. Oh, and every Q&A ever, of course. PETE WENTZ. SOMETIMES YOU ARE MY FAVORITE. ♥ ♥ ♥
Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty much at the point of just wanting to type the lyrics of that song over and over instead of making a coherent blog post. Man, I'm so overinvested in Pete Wentz, it's kind of a problem. Except for how I love it. I think a lot of people were blown into bandom by big winds in their personal lives, high seas and tempests – God knows I was. And I'm not sure how I found comfort and meaning in some dirty shitty boys from Chicago, but I really did. I don't mean to turn my LJ into a constant stream of OMG DEFENSIVE, at all, and I'll try to keep quiet after this, but – this fandom means a lot to me, and it genuinely hurts when people piss on it, or say it's okay to be into it as long as we know the music's shitty, or that the boys are insincere, or whatever. I don't know. The music – uh, whatever, I don't feel like arguing music taste. I love the music, that's the relevant part, I guess. Most of us love the music. And we sure as hell love the people who make it, and as much as we mock them (AND WE DO, bandom takes itself FAR less seriously than most of the fandoms I've been in!) we genuinely respect them. We love them without irony. And getting harshed on by people who ARE ALSO FANNISH, by people who, hello, write gay porn about Stargate Atlantis (or Harry Potter, or the Sentinel, or any of our other thoroughly ridiculous obsessions) feels a little. I don't know. It gets a tiny bit less funny, after, like, the fiftieth time.
This all goes back to what I've always said about overinvestment being the whole point of what we do, fannishly, and about how I think it's so much more important what you get out of something artistically than whether it's good according to some empirical standard. I have just as little interest in being attacked for being a Fall Out Boy fan as I do in being attacked for being an SGA fan, or a slash fan, or a romance novel fan. All my meta is one big meta! Pete Wentz, let's get together sometime and chat, I think it'd be a good time.
Whatever, I probably shouldn't post this, but my roommates are out pursuing athletic interests while I'm lazing around in an armchair, and mooching someone else's internet. So!
P.S. I was so overwhelmed by the response to my post about the stagegay that I can only write about it in small text, because I don't want to get weepy AGAIN, like I did about forty times during that wank when I saw how lovely and wonderful and intelligent my fandom was being. ILU, my angels. Thank you so much for every single comment. I'm still planning to reply to all of them when I get a more consistent wireless signal. Oh my fandom, I have so many <3s for you. <333333333333333333333333
Anyway, here's what I'm saying: Sophomore Slump or Comeback of the Year. Hi, I love this song. I LOVE it. I always prefer songs where Pete talks about The Band to songs where Pete talks about That Bitch, but man, I really really love this song. I might have to add it to my list of Reasons I Love It When Pete Writes Meta, along with Thriller, Saturday (although, didn't Patrick write that? Whatevs), and that one buzznet entry. Oh, and every Q&A ever, of course. PETE WENTZ. SOMETIMES YOU ARE MY FAVORITE. ♥ ♥ ♥
Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty much at the point of just wanting to type the lyrics of that song over and over instead of making a coherent blog post. Man, I'm so overinvested in Pete Wentz, it's kind of a problem. Except for how I love it. I think a lot of people were blown into bandom by big winds in their personal lives, high seas and tempests – God knows I was. And I'm not sure how I found comfort and meaning in some dirty shitty boys from Chicago, but I really did. I don't mean to turn my LJ into a constant stream of OMG DEFENSIVE, at all, and I'll try to keep quiet after this, but – this fandom means a lot to me, and it genuinely hurts when people piss on it, or say it's okay to be into it as long as we know the music's shitty, or that the boys are insincere, or whatever. I don't know. The music – uh, whatever, I don't feel like arguing music taste. I love the music, that's the relevant part, I guess. Most of us love the music. And we sure as hell love the people who make it, and as much as we mock them (AND WE DO, bandom takes itself FAR less seriously than most of the fandoms I've been in!) we genuinely respect them. We love them without irony. And getting harshed on by people who ARE ALSO FANNISH, by people who, hello, write gay porn about Stargate Atlantis (or Harry Potter, or the Sentinel, or any of our other thoroughly ridiculous obsessions) feels a little. I don't know. It gets a tiny bit less funny, after, like, the fiftieth time.
This all goes back to what I've always said about overinvestment being the whole point of what we do, fannishly, and about how I think it's so much more important what you get out of something artistically than whether it's good according to some empirical standard. I have just as little interest in being attacked for being a Fall Out Boy fan as I do in being attacked for being an SGA fan, or a slash fan, or a romance novel fan. All my meta is one big meta! Pete Wentz, let's get together sometime and chat, I think it'd be a good time.
Whatever, I probably shouldn't post this, but my roommates are out pursuing athletic interests while I'm lazing around in an armchair, and mooching someone else's internet. So!
P.S. I was so overwhelmed by the response to my post about the stagegay that I can only write about it in small text, because I don't want to get weepy AGAIN, like I did about forty times during that wank when I saw how lovely and wonderful and intelligent my fandom was being. ILU, my angels. Thank you so much for every single comment. I'm still planning to reply to all of them when I get a more consistent wireless signal. Oh my fandom, I have so many <3s for you. <333333333333333333333333
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I CONCUR ON ALL POINTS.
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Pls, like I could shut up for any length of time.
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... uh, sorry to dump that all over you! I. Just. That song!
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THAT SONG, GOD. *puts it on repeat*
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I am the exact same way. People look at me like I'm crazy when I declare that I love a song that two days ago I was all "meh" about.
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Please don't.
it's okay to be into it as long as we know the music's shitty
This one really gets to me because...I've never been the type to connect with music. I mean, I listened to music and there were songs I loved but it was all just...on the surface? Kind of? But here, this music, it means something to me, and that's new and special and I don't care if people think it's shitty, but. It's not even that I don't want to be mocked? Because whatever, I have no problem with that, but when someone insults the music and the boys...that fucking hurts. And yeah, that makes me sound insane, but I don't really care.
My crazy, let me show you it?
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Man, I could not agree more. SERIOUSLY. I was never that into music, growing up, and even now I'm not THAT into music, and I never in my life had the experience of going to a show and feeling lifted up and transported and alive, until one day in Chicago in June at the end of a truly shitty spring when I looked up at a lot of silver confetti and my band singing a song about not knowing if you're going to make it or not.
Yeah, I see your crazy, babe, and here's mine. \o/
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And I was going to comment on your post about how slash fandom (HP I think?) in general made my rethink how I thought about homosexuality when I was 12 or so, but so many people had already done so I thought it would be pointless. Basically I went from "ew gross" to "there's absolutely nothing wrong with loving someone, no matter who they are, and SHUT UP you idiots who keep saying so" so I'd call it a win? Whatever.
Someone made that macro into an icon! Awesome! Brian is love.
That buzznet entry of Pete's gets me everytime. That picture! ♥ I love them so much! All of them, really. And the music makes me happy, so who the hell cares if other people don't like it.
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DDDDD: PETE.
Oh man, I appreciated every comment I got, and I'm definitely going to get to answering them, but I've been moving into a new apartment, and I have shitty internet! *guilt* I think that's awesome, dude. I love that fandom – that things other people might think of as casual or trivial - can really change your life, can matter. I think that is AWESOME. I can't imagine why anyone would want to say no to that, for any reason. Ever.
The same person (http://vange.livejournal.com/65053.html) who made the original macro! Brian Schechter, how are you so awesome? <3
And the music makes me happy, so who the hell cares if other people don't like it.
Hey, exactly. \o/
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I love the music, and it also is personally meaningful. If that makes me emo, well...yeah. So? And bandslash saved me from spiraling deeper into a depression a few months ago, so I will always be grateful for the distraction just when I needed it.
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But what I can't stand are people who like Fall Out Boy, who listen to the music, go to the gigs, but hate on Pete Wentz.
I remember reading an article in the NME (only bought it because it had, like, twelve pages on MCR, otherwise that RAG does not get my money because they've hated Placebo for ten years & said that their latest album was little more than 'electro-goth noodling', while they bum bands like The View in every fucking issue, then jump on the MCR bandwagon but FAIL to realise that the 'Revenge' part of MCR's set refers to the SECOND album, not the FIRST, & review a Fall Out Boy set by saying that Pete is a fame-whore & Patrick has 'all the charm of a wet lettuce.' GAH.) where gig-goers were describing their experience of a FOB gig, & EVERY reaction they'd chosen to print said something along the lines of, "yeah, they were awesome, but I can't stand Pete Wentz."
People are always saying -- like, if you admit you like FOB, you obviously have shitty music taste, but you can get away with it if you say that Pete Wentz is an ass. Like hating on him will improve your credibility.
Anyway, that was a long & convoluted way of saying that I hate people hating on Pete. I mean, jesus, he's only like, writing the lyrics. Obviously we could do without him. *rollseyes*
I like the way Pete writes. He makes sense to me. I've been slowly packing my life up over the past month or so -- leaving for uni this Saturday, & I'm fucking terrified. Everything feels like an upheaval that's too difficult to cope with, but. I don't know. Those dudes have been on my mind the whole time, & I just feel better because of them. & LJ & bandom is like this awesome constant in the midst of change, so. In conclusion, um. I guess IAWTC. xDD
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I feel the same way about MCR fans who trash Gerard constantly. Sure, the kid's nuts, but despite any questionable behavior, I still love him like whoa and I won't tolerate people talking shit about him (Gerard's five years older than me but I still call him a 'kid' because I feel so overprotective of him.)
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(And, y'know, he also writes some awesome lyrics and cares about his friends and is very smart and business-savvy and smiles like an angel and loves what he does. But whatevs. PATRICK LIKES HIM, DUDE.)
(Oh, hey, semi-relatedly, you know what else I hate that hipsters do all the damn time? Saying you hate FOB, but then recommending the String Quartet Tribute to Fall Out Boy "which is actually kind of good!" It's like - adlsfjapoajdfs I can't even explain how much I hate it. It's like flat-out admitting that you like the music and are too posery to say so.)
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(I got into bandom in, like, two hours, but there's also a way in which I got into bandom because my commute had changed and I needed something to listen to and obsess over in the car, because I missed reading on the train and I'm not good at paying attention to audiobooks.)
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I totally got in through the fic, but the music has been growing and growing on me, you know? I just need time to come around to such things.
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Seriously, that's such a great compliment. And I definitely wasn't thinking of you when I said that, at all! I just, argh, it feels like there's been a lot of hate lately, and I made fandom_wank for the first time, and I guess I'm a little over-wrought. But thanks, that's a really sweet thing to say. And it's exactly why I want you to post about the Sentinel, dude! I always want to hear what you have to say, even when I don't know much about it. ♥ ♥
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(I'm embarrassing you again! Don't reply! *pats*)
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um.
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I'm tired of being told that I'm stupid and I smell funny and that I should OMGSHUTUP and go away just because I love Pete Wentz's stupid face.
I could post about things I don't like in fandom every day for a month and still have some left over. But I don't, because I'm not a complete douchenozzle.
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I AM TIRED OF THAT AS WELL, SHRIFT. I DO NOT LIKE IT. ME AND YOU AND PETE WENTZ'S STUPID FACE SHOULD HANG OUT SOME TIME AND SMELL FUNNY TOGETHER. (ahaha. one of the above things actually might smell funny. oh, pete, honey, take a shower. dry shampoo is just not the same.)
I could post about things I don't like in fandom every day for a month and still have some left over. But I don't, because I'm not a complete douchenozzle.
I could post about things I don't like in fandom every day for a month and still have some left over. But I don't, because I'm not a complete douchenozzle.
I could post about things I don't like in fandom every day for a month and still have some left over. But I don't, because I'm not a complete douchenozzle.
Yeah, that's pretty much all I have to say about that.
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