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You know what I realized today? All of my sadness about fic that breaks the Pete/Patrick OTP comes from a place of being sad for Pete. Patrick? Patrick could be happy with tons of people! He's an awesome person, and awesome people can date him. But if Patrick's with someone else, then Pete is all alone, or dating people who are horrible for him, because that's what Pete DOES. And if Pete's with someone else – actually, who writes serious relationship fic where Pete's with someone else? Pete/Ryan and Pete/Mikey are both usually written as temporary pairings, and I have no problem reading them as such, but ultimately, I feel like Ryan ends up with Keltie and Mikey ends up with Alicia and Pete ends up sad and alone and Patrickless. Oh, Peeeete. Come here so I can cuddle your sad self. D:

I invite people to propose Pete long-term-relationship pairings that do not make me want to cry. Go on, do it, I dare you. MAYBE Pete/Gerard! I could be convinced of Pete/Gerard, I think.

In much more exciting news, the stars are falling tonight! I'm going to be heading out to a field at my old high school after midnight with a couple friends and some blankets. There's no moon, so it should be a good one. I strongly recommend to anyone in the northern hemisphere that you at least set your alarm to stick your head outside sometime before dawn, because it's a pretty amazing thing to watch. They get up to about 80 an hour before sunrise.

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ITA about p/p! Pete needs him to be happy. I believe this IN MY SOUL.

I am actually toying about with Pete/Gerard right now, but it's not long-term, it's more ill-advised accidental hook-up Pete/Gerard. Because *my* little OTP-y heart gets really upset about Frank and Gerard not being together until the end of time.

With or without fiancees/girlfriends/wives on the side! I'm not picky!

I SINCERELY THINK THAT IS TRUE.

Here is another relevant point about Pete/Gerard: it would be super hot. Just, you know, putting that out there. Although you are totally right, I would continue to make tiny sadfaces in my heart, even if the serious Pete/Gerard relationship fic was very well written and awesome - because awww, OTPs! I would always have that meta-knowledge that my OTPs were not carrying out their awesome dynamics of awesomeness, and it would bug me. Sigh. Still, at least Frank and Patrick wouldn't be CRYING IN A CORNER OMG like Pete and Gerard in the corresponding situation!

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SERIOUSLY SAD AND ALONE IN A CORNER.

Now I want to write about Gerard and Pete sitting in a diner somewhere, miserable because they're all ALONE and ABANDONED and they don't even DRINK so they can't even go to a BAR and listen to COUNTRY MUSIC like REGULAR PEOPLE, so Gerard just does his best to smoke himself to death and Pete blows moody bubbles in his chocolate milk.

They try half-heartedly to get into a bitching session about how STUPID AND ANNOYING FRANK AND PATRICK ARE AND THEY ARE TOTALLY BETTER OFF WITHOUT THEM, SEE, but it just dissolves into Gerard listing all of Frank's tattoos in the order he got them, and Pete talking about how much he loves Patrick's New Shoes face.

They write painful, angsty lyrics together on the backs of napkins, for their two-man (three-man if they can get Brendon to join) superband that they're going to call The Bereft or The Left Behind or The Forgotten because FUCK subtlety, okay, if Bert McfuckingCracken can write entire albums about his broken gay heart then so can they.

They both know that two (or three) frontmen together would never work, of course, but neither of them is willing to say it out loud.

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OH MY GOD I LOVE YOU. I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU. AHAHAHAHA, OH SWEET ANGELS OF MY HEART IN AN ALL NIGHT DINER WITH CHOCOLATE MILK AND BIG ANGSTY DREAMS. IF YOU EXPAND THIS INTO A WHOLE FIC I WILL PRETTY MUCH HAVE A HEART ATTACK FROM SHEER GLEE, FTR.

They try half-heartedly to get into a bitching session about how STUPID AND ANNOYING FRANK AND PATRICK ARE AND THEY ARE TOTALLY BETTER OFF WITHOUT THEM, SEE, but it just dissolves into Gerard listing all of Frank's tattoos in the order he got them, and Pete talking about how much he loves Patrick's New Shoes face.

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Hahaha! Maybe I will, just because ILU, but you have to promise not to have a heart attck! Not before Decaydance anyway! EEEEEEEEEEEE SO SOON!!!!!

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I am staying SO FUCKING HEALTHY for Decaydance, this is my SOLEMN VOW. I have been drinking a lot of orange juice and milk and stuff like that! I am trying to get more sleep! I WILL BE HEALTHY IF IT KILLS ME. SO SO SO SO SOOOOON! LESS THAN TWO WEEKS OMG OMG I CANNOT THINK ABOUT THAT OR I WILL HYPERVENTILATE.

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DEAR GOD THIS IS BRILLIANT!

GET TO WRITING, WOMAN!

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Oh god, that fic would either be totally hilarious or break my heart into a thousand pieces.

They both know that two (or three) frontmen together would never work, of course, but neither of them is willing to say it out loud.

Ahaha. Um. Especially because two of these frontmen can't really play any useful instruments. I mean, Gerard's said repeatedly that he's not good enough to play on stage, and Pete frequently admits that he's not the greatest bassist ever, and anyway bass is like the last instrument you can go solo with. It would have to be an awesome accapella band with tambourines!

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Pete blows moody bubbles in his chocolate milk.

I. Think I just fell in love a little bit.

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yes, exactly! Patrick is an awesome guy - he can fend for himself! whereas Pete, on the other hand, is - he's a little crazy, okay? he cannot be thrown willy-nilly into a pairing!

...on the other hand, I could kind of go to a Pete/Gerard place? maybe? but that's pretty much because I have a (slightly similar) concern about Gerard - like, if Frank goes off with _____ to have hot sex forever and ever, where does that leave Gerard? SAD AND ALONE.

am I going to be able to see the stars from here? or is there too much light? HELP ME OBI-WAN KALPURNA YOU ARE MY ONLY HOPE.

I need to feel that Pete is being adequately cared for! He is like Benton Fraser, in a way. (AHAHAHAHAHAHA WOW THAT IS A FUCKED UP CONCEPT.)

Dude, exactly, EXACTLY. Pete, Fraser, Gerard! They all need to not be sad and alone in Canada with only their wolf for comfort.

I live in NEW JERSEY, bb. Meteors are pretty bright! I'd recommend finding a field, but unless you are in Manhattan and forgot to tell me, you should be okay???

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pete and fraser and gerard: I DON'T EVEN HAVE A WORD FOR THE KIND OF FUCKED UP AND SPECIAL THEY ARE.

oh, boys. OH BOYS.

although zee is actually right - I could see pete/joe, maybe? a little? possibly?

I'm in my apartment - and don't judge me! I've never seen meteors before; I am special. I DO NOT KNOW THESE THINGS, I NEED YOUR LEARNINGS.

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You know what, I have a suspicion that Pete/Joe is totally valid and does work, and yet I can never get that into it. I have read really good Pete/Joe fic, as well as Patrick/Joe, and said, "This is really good!" and nodded a lot and then went and found some Pete/Patrick to soothe my wounds. Joe Troh slash is just tragically not my thing, even though I love and adore the man himself. I DON'T KNOW WHY. IT IS A PROBLEM.

Oh, hey, if you – you should like, go out to the point! I bet over the lake is the best place to look. My guess is that on your actual street, it might be hard to see them. Uhm. Don't get raped, though. Take a buddy?

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...you know, you're right. becase now that I think about it, I've read that fic, too! and it never just gets me where I live. What's up with that?

possibly I am just not sufficiently attracted to joe? like - I would marry him cheerfully! but it is relatively rare that I look at a picture of him and say, hot damn!

dude, the point! that is a great point (hnur hnur).

Uhm. Don't get raped, though. Take a buddy?

that is very good advice! possibly I will take my roomies with and we will make an expedition of it.

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I really don't know! It's like, would I myself have sex with Joe Troh? In a hot minute. Do I want him to have sex with his bandmates? Well... maybe not so much. IT IS UNFORTUNATE.

LOL LOSER.

Yes, you so should! It makes me happy to imagine you and your roomies sitting on those huge concrete blocks and wishing on a a star. <3

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I can see Pete/Gerard (which I'm writing right now, heh) as a long-term thing, as well as Pete/Joe, actually. As well as, uh, *koff* Pete/Jeanae and Pete/Ashlee. /o\ But I prefer Pete/Patrick over most things, I must admit.

Ooh, Pete/Gerard fic, I can't wait!!! And yes, Pete/Joe probably does work – my block about Joe Troh is very weird, and I cannot figure out where it comes from, but I have trouble with him in romantic slashfic, even though I think he is AWESOME INCARNATE. I don't know! It is my own weird problem, and it makes me sad. Pete/Jeanae reminds me of Real Life Relationships I Have Known, and I therefore cannot imagine that it will ever NOT be a trainwreck, but maybe that's also more me than them! Pete/Ashlee = YES, actually. I think she is probably the healthiest relationship he's ever had! Team Ashlee FTW!

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My issue with Joe is the same issue I have with Ray: I am unbelievably hot for both of them, I think they're both made of so much more awesome than most people, and I cannot write either of them at all. At all! *sucks*

Yeah, I don't see Pete/Jeanae ever not being a trainwreck, I just think it's a trainwreck that's going to keep happening, you know? And Pete/Ashlee, man, I am so pleasantly surprised and amused that that seems to be such a healthy relationship.

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Oh, dude, I think that's a lot of people's issue, actually! I really wish people wrote more Ray, PERIOD. Especially more Ray/Mikey. But to be perfectly honest, I'd rather just... go have sex with Joe and Ray myself. And then read some Pete/Patrick slashfic. /o\

I know what you mean! I feel like that's the kind of thing that keeps happening until you grow up enough or become involved enough with someone else that it stops feeling like the same situation repeating over and over. Pete/Ashlee, on the other hand, constantly amazes me with the degree to which it does not lead to drama. She doesn't cheat on him! He doesn't punch brick walls! They're just... happy? I approve of this, even though it confuses me.

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arsenicjade's Just Off the Key of Reason and short sequels make me believe in Gerard/Pete as a long-term relationship and make me want moooore omg.

But really, Pete/Patrick=OTP, even if that's not the Patrick pairing I'm currently writing. Because you're right. At the end of the day, Pete needs Patrick. And cuddles.

Oh, I love that one! It has SEQUELS? *investigates* She also got me interested in Ray Toro/Mikey Way, which is just, wow, I approve of THAT and wish there were more!

At the end of the day, Pete needs Patrick. And cuddles.

It's so true, isn't it? It's just. So so true.

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Phew, I'm glad you said it first, I just thought I'd have to go dig up the link. I love that story.

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I completely know what you mean. Patrick could totally be a little black dress of fandom, a la Spencer Smith, but there's so few people that really work for Pete! I've seen a few Pete/Gerard fics that could convince me, but they've always got that awkward Mikey hurdle. Sometimes Pete/Andy works, but not well. And not often. Poor Pete, it's so obvious that he's already given his heart away completely to Patrick and no one else will ever do for him.

I just want them to get married already!
(dude, seriously. This wedding thing? is hitting me the way kidfic hit you in the Spring. I want it so bad)

That is IT. That is it in a nutshell! This is why I need more fic where Patrick sluts around all over the place, and then ends up with Pete. Get on that, bandom.

Poor Pete, it's so obvious that he's already given his heart away completely to Patrick and no one else will ever do for him.

This sentence makes me make a sad face and then an awwwwww face. *draws hearts around him*

I want them to get married so so so badly. If any band boys ever have a gay Canadian wedding? I am taking it as definitive proof of God's existence, the end, amen.

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Dude, I totally need fic where Patrick sluts around and ends up with Pete! That would be so very amazing. And, of course, Patrick's discrete. So Pete doesn't really realize that Patrick's slutting around. And when he finds out, he flips out and he's not sure why until he realizes it's because Oh hey! he's in love with Patrick and only wants him slutting around with him!

If this fandom has a canon gay Canadian wedding, I won't even be able to express how unbelievably happy I will be. I'd love it to be Pete and Patrick or Frankie and Gee, but dude- imagine if it was a rarepair! Imagine if, like, Joe and Ray were secretly in love IRL, and they got married. Just imagine the fandom reaction! How fucking amazing it would be!

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Did I ever send you my Pete/Gerard on a deserted island nonsense? Because I managed to convince myself of their fantasticness while plotting it out.

And I also buy the Wentz-Trohmans to a ridiculous degree. Joe's seen all the crazy and has loved him from practically day one and he'd let Pete be as stupidly domestic as he wanted to be without actually placing any expectations on him. It's be like that time they all lived together before, only with more mutually beneficial orgasms. Also, Joe is the best puppy nanny ever, which counts for a lot.

dude, no you did not! Send me that shit! It sounds AWESOME.

You know what, I do buy it, I think you are not wrong. But I have this weird Joe Trohman BLOCK. I'm just not that into him in slashfic! I would much rather just date and/or bone him in the actual lifes, myself, rather than read about him with boys. I DO NOT KNOW WHY THIS IS. So yes, I think you are right, in theory, but I am just not that into the pairing in fic! Tragically!

Joe IS the best stepmommy a puppy could ask for, it is very very true.

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i wish I could write Pete with anyone else in a long term relationship but I just can't. I think Patrick is *it* for Pete. He's his soul mate and his right hand man and his better half. Hopefully they'll get their shit together if they haven't already because it breaks my heart to think Pete isn't with his most important person.

I agree with this comment, honestly. Oh, PETE. Ugh, they are such an OTP, I cannot even stand it.

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Totally.

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I propose Pete/Travie! They have buddy tattoos and enjoy hip-hop and fashion!

Dude, WHY is there no Pete/Travie fic? They have BUDDY TATTOOS. COME ON. That would be, like, the foundation of the major pairing in any other fandom! Bandom, you are an embarrassment of riches.

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I'm sorry, my flail button broke somewhere around Pete ends up sad and alone and Patrickless.

[FLAIL] NUUUUU PETE/PATRICK OTP OMG 2GETHA 4EVA [/FLAIL]

I wish I could have seen the shooting stars. Sounds like it would be completely beautiful.

I KNOW, RIGHT? I KNOW. OTPPPPP.

It was actually kind of cloudy, so we only saw a few! LAME. Way to go, WEATHER. D:

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Okay, unpopular fandom opinion time: as much as I LOVE AND ADORE Pete/Patrick, I secretly think that if they ended up together Pete would break Patrick's heart, which is why I am all about Patrick getting with Frank, who is the epitome of stable. I have no idea who Pete would end up with, though. :(

P.S. I am SO IRRITATED because when I went to bed the sky was PERFECTLY CLEAR, and then somehow, without any alarms or anything, I manage to WAKE MYSELF UP at FIVE FREAKING AM, and I go out onto the porch, and what is it doing? It's RAINING. ASLKHD;DFLK I HATE NEW ENGLAND.

I have heard that view expressed before! I guess I just feel that - well, let's be honest, I LOVE PETE WENTZ. I think he's a really good person at heart, and that he deserves good things in life. And so the idea that he could never be happy with anyone, well, I just can't deal. And if there is one person in the entire world who is going to get him enough, going to cope with his mood swings and insanity through thick and thin until death do them part, I feel that that person is Patrick Stump. You know? Like, I can understand why you might feel that he'd break Patrick's heart, but if that boy would break PATRICK'S heart, then there is no one in the universe whose heart he WOULDN'T break. In my mind. And that makes me weep forever!

WEATHER = FAIL. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF CLOUDY AND SO I ONLY SAW LIKE FIVE METEORS. DDDD:

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Hi, I just surfed on in and now I'm gonna butt in on your reindeer games. First of all I'm completely delighted with what's going on int this thread and agree that Pete's best hope for longterm happiness is Patrick.

However, Pete can have hot sweaty relations with just about any boy in bandom... girl too. If Patrick is the black dress of fandom than Pete is the matching 6 inches of slutty pumps to go with it because Pete + HotMonkeySecks x y (where "y" means any and everybody) = GOOD TIMES!

I too want that super group scenario and I want it to be funny and angsty and end on a happy note because I'm a big nelly when it comes to real angst. Lastly, I have to fully put my support behind a Pete/Joe scenario if no Pete/Patrick because Dude. Gerard is with Frank, now and forever Amen.

P.S. I'm a fan of Pete and Travie as a sexual pairing. Nothing longterm. I'm writing it now but it's cultverse therefore disturbing and off putting.

Oh, no, you're definitely right about THAT. I only ship Pete with Patrick, pretty much, but I have trouble imagining a temporary pairing involving Pete that would NOT be awesome good times. That boy is slutty pumps incarnate. Pete one night stands ftw!

Ahahaha, fair enough! I think

shoemaster dies a little inside every time I rec her Patrick/Frank fic, because it breaks BOTH her OTPs. (Uhm, mine too, come to think of it, but for some reason I still read it?)

Why not longterm? They have buddy tattoos, dude! If that is not commitment, I don't know what is! On the other hand, I am certainly not voting no on Pete/Travie sexing, no matter what the emotional context, because that is a double shot of hotass and I support such things. :D

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Okay, so, don't get me wrong, I LOVE me some Pete/Gerard (um, I think that's kind of obvious, y/y?) and I have had flings, clearly, with Pete/Joe, which has made me happy, and I have this sort of thought about a Pete/Mikey with a happy ending at some point, but when it boils down to it, when you get down to the real true of Pete OTPs with me? Jon/Pete. And, um. I may or may not have more to say on that in a different, er, narrative form. Maybe. Is all I'm saying.

ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT I WOULD READ THAT. WITH BELLS ON. I VOTE Y ON JON/PETE.

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*hugs* I hope you feel the same way when I actually post.

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